I
am a committed believer who happens to also be
gay. Why do other believers continue to
persecute and shut out gay and lesbian people
based on passages of Scripture that are very
much open to an interpretation quite different
from the traditional stance the church has
always taken?
Answer by Randy Alcorn
Note:
Names and distinguishing details have been
changed to protect the writer's identity.
However, 98% of the words are hers.
Mr. Alcorn,
I am a big fan of your writing—both your books
and your articles. I recommend you to Christians
and non-Christians alike and visit your website
frequently. I have been resisting the urge to
write you for months. I am not one for
disagreement or debate, so I usually avoid
inviting people into my life. I just feel very
strongly about a particular issue and have been
troubled by your viewpoints. I feel burdened
with the need to reach out to you, with no
animosity or disrespect, in regards to it.
I agree almost 100% with you on most issues on
which you have written. I am vehemently against
abortion and euthanasia. I consider adultery
abhorrent and generally concur with your views
on modern secular psychology. I am a "straddler"
on the capital punishment issue, but I feel God
will reveal that to me in time.
I am a Christian. I was raised in a fairly
"functional" Christian home. My father is a
social worker, my mother a nurse, and they both
love me very much and gave me a solid
upbringing. By the grace of God, I have endured
no "major" traumas in my life. I have a very
close relationship with Jesus Christ, I am an
active member of a spirit-filled, charismatic
church, I have close Christian friends, I spend
significant time reading Scripture, I am
striving to be a true prayer warrior
intercessing for family, friends, church,
children and our nation and have seen many of my
prayers answered, I have a great relationship
with my parents, etc., etc. I say all of this
not to boast or turn attention to myself, but to
give you an idea of who I am, because I also
happen to be gay.
My partner of five years is a devout Christian
as well. We pray together, worship together,
have devotional time together, and focus on
Jesus Christ as the center and cornerstone of
our relationship. We are completely monogamous
and have dedicated our relationship and
ourselves as individuals to God. We would
absolutely be married if it were legal. We have
prayed about our "lifestyle" (as some would call
it), have opened our hearts to God's leading,
and neither of us feel the conviction of the
Holy Spirit that our relationship is a sin. We
have made other extremely difficult decisions
based on the leading of the Holy Spirit. For
example, both of us quit very lucrative jobs
because we were making the pursuit of money and
the approval of the secular world our gods. We
do not make anywhere near the amount of money we
were making before and have had to change our
lifestyle dramatically, but we are now where God
wants us to be (or at least closer to it!).
I just don't understand why people in the
church-good, knowledgeable, intelligent, kind
Christians like yourself-continue to persecute
and shut out gay and lesbian people based on
passages of Scripture that are very much open to
an interpretation very different from the
traditional stance the church has always taken.
I would expound on this myself, but, despite the
research I have done on this topic, I do not
consider myself in any way to be a Bible
scholar. Therefore, I am going to rely on
someone who is more educated than me to
elaborate on this subject. Walter Wink,
Professor of Biblical Interpretation at Auburn
Theological Seminary in New York City, has
written an article that concisely and accurately
states what I have always believed to be true. I
beg of you to read this article, if only to see
what the "other side" is saying (even though I
am sure you are well-versed on that already!).
Think of it as an educational, journalistic
endeavor. See www.melwhite.org/biblesays.html
I respect and admire you so much. It deeply
troubles me that someone with such knowledge,
conviction, and clear thinking adheres to the
idea that no practicing gay or lesbian person
can be a Christian in a close, right
relationship with God. Whether you believe me or
not, I am proof that there is such a thing.
I truly appreciate and value your time. If you
made it this far, and have read this entire
e-mail, I thank you from the bottom of my heart
for valuing a stranger enough to read her "two
cents worth." I pray for you and those involved
in your ministry and for the important work you
are doing. Thank you again for your time.
Your sister in Christ,
Shannon
Shannon,
I wish we could talk face to face so you could
hear my heart for you. In your letter you said,
"I just don't understand why people in the
church—good, knowledgeable, intelligent, kind
Christians like yourself—continue to persecute
and shut out gay and lesbian people based on
passages of Scripture that are very much open to
an interpretation."
First, if someone is persecuting you, they are
not being kind. This does not mean they are
wrong in what they believe about homosexual
behavior, but it does mean that they are wrong
in not bearing the fruit of the Spirit. Some
people are just hateful. Someone may be accurate
in telling a woman "abortion will kill your
baby," but they may do it in either a loving or
a hateful way.
It's important that you understand that just
because someone disagrees with you, even if they
may think you are making sinful choices, it does
not mean they are persecuting you. Sometimes I
believe things not because I want to, but
because I feel compelled to. It would be much
easier for me if I believed, for instance, that
abortion doesn't kill children. It would be much
easier if I kept silent about it. (Since you're
prolife, you probably understand that.) I may
say to a woman "abortion will kill your baby" in
the most loving way I know how, but from her
point of view she may think I'm being hateful
because of the horrible implications of what I'm
saying, and of what that means about what she is
doing.
It would be much easier, and it would make me
feel much better to just say "No problem,
Shannon, I love you and that means I'll say
however you want to live is just fine with God."
Frankly, Shannon, you seem extremely likeable,
and I felt a kinship with you as you wrote. You
seem like the kind of person I'd have loved to
have as a sister. (I grew up with one brother
and always wished I'd had a sister, so I've sort
of adopted some since then.) The last thing I
want to do is hurt or offend you. But our job is
not just to help each other feel better, but to
help each other be better. If I truly love you,
and I do, I will come to you as Jesus did, in
grace and truth. Not truth without grace, not
grace without truth, but with both.
Let me clarify I'm not homophobic, meaning I do
not fear homosexuals. (Homophobic is now
construed by many to mean disagreeing with
homosexuals, an interesting twist on the real
meaning.) I attended a meeting where dozens were
present, and I was the only one who hadn't lived
as a homosexual. I didn't feel a need to sit
near an exit! Yes, I disagreed with the
homosexual lifestyle (most of them did too), but
I felt no hatred or revulsion toward anyone
there, including those still involved in it.
I invited a lesbian abortion activist to lunch a
few years ago and we sat for four hours in
honest dialogue. She did not repulse me. I found
her very likeable. I recently talked with her on
the phone, and I consider her a friend even
today. (She has walked away from her lesbian
relationship and her pro-abortion activism, but
at the time she was immersed in both.)
I am very familiar with Mel White, whose website
you referred me to. In fact he was involved in
youth ministry here in Portland many years ago.
I don't know him personally, but I received a
letter from him years ago (a letter to Oregon
pastors) that I believe was very twisted and
misrepresented both the Scriptures and a number
of things that were happening at the time. While
I have appreciated some things I've heard Mel
White say, I have to be honest and say I don't
trust his ability to separate his claims about
the Bible or the Christian life from his own
personal experiences. He has built his new
"ministry" around a series of rationalizations
and justifications of choices he has made, some
of which dishonor the Lord he claims to serve. I
feel no hate for him as I say this, none
whatsoever. I also do not hate the people who
perform abortions. But I still believe they are
dishonoring God.
I read the whole Walter Wink article carefully,
making notes in the margins. I have often read
similar things, many when I was researching my
first book in the early '80s (Christians in
the Wake of the Sexual Revolution—recently
updated and republished as Restoring Sexual
Sanity; be glad to send you a copy if you
want one). Wink takes the same approach to
biblical interpretation many people do. He
starts with his modern beliefs—including the
currently popular notion that homosexuality is a
matter of genes and destiny as opposed to
choosing to succumb to a temptation—and works
backwards, trying to read some of them into
Scripture. He refers to texts such as 1 Cor. 6:9
and 1 Tim. 1:10 saying they are "ambiguous." But
I know of no one prior to our place and time who
would have thought these were "unclear," as if
the real issue might just be sex for hire, not
homosexuality. I believe the texts themselves
are much clearer than he admits.
When Dr. Wink moves on to the unequivocal
condemnations, he dismisses these, stating as if
it were fact why he thinks the Hebrews
considered homosexuality an abomination. He
cites population issues, which Scripture never
does. God has a created order in which He has
decreed that the only proper sexual intimacies
occur within a heterosexual legally binding
marriage. Now, we may not like that, but that's
the truth, regardless of any interpretive
gymnastics we might attempt to get away from it.
Dr. Wink clearly believes that the source of the
law was chauvinistic Hebrew men, not God
Himself. Well, in that case, why bother
explaining anything away? Why not just say "they
were a bunch of pigs and God had nothing to do
with this, so let's just disregard it"? He says
"Paul knew nothing of the modern psychosexual
understanding...." Yes. But instead of
considering that perhaps that modern
understanding is wrong and Paul was under the
guidance of the Holy Spirit (and therefore
right), Dr. Wink is patronizing and demeaning in
discrediting the validity of Paul's objections
to homosexuality.
Well, Paul either spoke the truth or he didn't.
If he didn't, then why not just turn our backs
on it and admit that's what we're doing? But if
he did, then we need to come to terms with what
God's Word is really saying.
Dr. Wink also makes various false claims and
gross generalizations such as "adultery, which
creates far more social havoc, is considered
less sinful than homosexual activity. Yet no one
is calling for [adulterers'] stoning. And we
ordain adulterers."
This is false on many levels. First, who is he
talking about? I do not think heterosexual
adultery is less sinful than homosexual
activity. And I pastored and taught ethics for
years at the very kind of churches and colleges
he would assume believe and teach such things.
He also implies people are calling for the
stoning of homosexuals, yet I've never once
heard anyone do that. And his comment "we ordain
adulterers" is entirely irrelevant. (If his
point is, many churches operate with hypocrisy,
well of course they do, but that hardly
functions as an argument for his case.) Known
child molesters have been ordained too, but that
has nothing to do with whether homosexual acts
are wrong in the sight of God. I am convinced,
Shannon, that any honest examination of
Scriptural teaching shows clearly that they are.
Your letter seems to take refuge in the fact
that Dr. Wink is a scholar. But many scholars
are wrong. I can give you the names of countless
scholars who believe and teach that the Bible
condemns all sex outside of marriage. Calling on
scholars is much like lawyers calling on expert
doctors and psychologists as witnesses. You can
always find someone to back up the point you
want to believe, or want to make the jury
believe. But it doesn't matter that the doctor
has degrees—his testimony could still be wrong.
Dr. Wink makes some valid points, of course, but
I take issue with many claims he makes.
For instance, his comments about Song of Solomon
being a celebration of fornication are off base.
He says "the Bible has no sexual ethic." I
disagree. His pleas to "live by the love ethic
of Jesus" sounds wonderful, but if the actual
teachings of Scripture aren't our guide, we will
simply decree anything to be "Christlike" if we
want to do it and "unchristlike" if it makes us
uncomfortable. (Hence we, not Christ, are our
own authorities.) He seems to utterly fail to
understand what Scripture calls the wickedness
of the heart, our tendency toward self-deception
and demonic deception. He has adopted the spirit
of the age and placed himself above Scripture as
its judge.
Where is Dr. Wink going to take this? Maybe he
still believes adultery is wrong, I'm not sure.
But if his wife doesn't meet his needs, I could
see him developing an ethical framework
justifying adultery, then writing another paper
giving a scholarly defense of adultery from the
Bible, showing how twisted traditionalists have
made us think the Bible actually condemned
adultery, when in fact it really doesn't. (Or
arguing that even where the Bible condemns
adultery, it is wrong because it didn't have the
benefit of our modern psychological
understanding of why adultery can actually be a
good thing.)
One thought on the issue of unfairness. I know
people who are handicapped, who will never walk
again in this life or never see. Is that unfair?
In one sense, yes. Most other people can walk
and see, why not them? Is it unfair to have a
sexual attraction which God says you cannot
righteously act out? Well, it is extremely
difficult. But it is certainly not impossible.
(In fact, I know people with very strong
heterosexual desires and others with very strong
homosexual desires who live in lifelong sexual
abstinence.)
Those who think that having a genetic root
therefore makes a thing legitimate should
consider the research suggesting there may be "a
rapist's gene," that men who commit rape tend to
have certain chromosomal patterns. This may or
may not prove true, but suppose for a moment it
did. Would you consider it a legitimate thing
for a man to commit rape just because he has a
genetic condition that gives him a much stronger
temptation toward rape than someone else has?
You may feel that's a poor analogy because rape
hurts someone and consenting homosexual acts
don't. Yet God condemns not only adultery, but
fornication, premarital sex between consenting
people. Consent and lack of betraying someone
else don't automatically make a behavior right.
We should see the larger picture of a God whose
holiness is violated by our sin. And certainly
His heart is grieved when His children choose to
violate His standards of holiness. We should ask
not only if our choices hurt ourselves and
others, but if they hurt our Lord.
As I feel sorry for someone who will never walk
again, I feel very sorry for those who want to
be married, but have no desire to be married to
the only ones God (not just society) permits
them to marry, those of the opposite gender. But
my sorrow and empathy do not negate the
objective teaching of Scripture. It is never
loving people to mislead them into thinking that
God permits what He in fact condemns.
There are many things Scripture teaches that
disturb me, Shannon, that I would rather not
believe. One of them is the doctrine of hell. I
find it very troubling and difficult to think of
eternal suffering. I have a friend, a writer,
who has come to the conclusion that because God
is more loving than he is, and he would never
send someone to hell, therefore God never would,
and there cannot be such a thing as an eternal
hell.
Well, the problem is, God is God and we're not.
My job isn't to try to pretend the Bible says
what I wish it said, but to believe what it does
in fact say. If there's a conflict between my
way of thinking and what the Bible says, instead
of trying to reinterpret the Bible to fit with
my beliefs, I need to change my beliefs to make
them conform to what God says. That's why I
believe in an eternal hell, election, and other
doctrines that once troubled me and in some
cases still do.
In this sense, I think an atheist homosexual is
being much more honest about the Bible than Mel
White. He will tell you that the Bible clearly
and consistently condemns all sex outside of
marriage, including homosexual relations. He
simply chooses to reject that teaching. But Mel
White and others are often unwilling to outright
reject Scripture. They twist it to fit their
inclinations and thinking and preferences. (I
have done that in the past myself with various
doctrines, and probably still do without
realizing it.)
Dr. Wink finally gets very honest near the end
of the article when he says, "Where the Bible
mentions homosexual behavior at all, it clearly
condemns it. I freely grant that. The issue is
precisely whether that Biblical judgment is
correct." There—at last he hits the nail on the
head. I believe the Bible is correct. He
believes it is not, and that is the basis for
his own moral conclusions.
So, Shannon, it comes down to this—do you agree
with Dr. Wink (and with me) that the Bible
clearly condemns homosexual behavior? Secondly,
do you agree with Dr. Wink that the Bible is
dead wrong? Or do you agree with me that it is
right? You can't have it both ways. If you're
appealing to Dr. Wink's arguments, you're
ultimately appealing to his disbelief in the
Scriptures.
This I know, Shannon, and it grieves me to say
it, but I must because I am commanded to speak
the truth in love: Christ has something much
higher for you than disobedience to His decrees
and principles. He wants something great for
you, something that brings him glory and brings
you joy. And whether or not you recognize it, if
you are in fact engaged in sex outside of the
only kind of marriage God recognizes, you are
living in sin. If I am living in sin, whether in
greed or pride or lust, my sin may very well be
as bad in God's sight as yours. But that doesn't
mean that yours isn't real. (I search my own
heart, asking God to make me aware of hidden
sins, and to give me the courage to repent of
them.)
I wish I could meet you face to face and put my
arms around you. I wish I could make you believe
that I love you, and far more importantly, that
Jesus loves you just as you are, but loves you
too much to let you stay that way. He has not
put his decrees there as baseball bats to
bludgeon you with, but as guardrails to keep you
from plunging off the cliff and destroying
yourself. If I was a doctor and you came to me
saying you were bothered that someone had given
you a diagnosis of cancer, I would hope that I
could give you what you wanted to hear: "clean
bill of health—no cancer." But if the test
results showed cancer, a good doctor wouldn't do
that. He would try to save your life by telling
you the truth and suggesting the necessary
treatment. I have wept for you, asking God to
show this to you. I know that's not what you
want to hear. But I believe it's what you need
to hear.
You strike me as sincere, Shannon. But I also
believe you are deceived. Satan is a liar, and
he is whispering lies in your ear. He is
convincing you that because you believe most of
the right things and engage in many Christian
practices and are sincere, therefore you are
justified in doing what God says you should not.
I ask you to take a fresh look at God's Word,
not trying to back up what an ungodly culture
has taught you to believe, but asking God to
show you what is really true. He never commands
us to do anything—or to abstain from
anything—that He does not give us the power to
carry out. There is the cancer of sin in your
life—but there is corrective surgery to deal
with it. Confession, repentance, and
transformation of living obediently, and getting
help from supportive, loving Christians who
believe the Word of God and seek to follow Jesus
even when it's costly, even when it breaks your
heart. Sometimes the joy doesn't come until
after we've walked the path of heartbreak.
(Speaking of heartbreak, would you ask Jesus if
some of your choices are breaking His heart? I
must ask the same, and I do.)
I am not saying you should change your behavior
to earn God's grace. You can't earn God's
grace—it's a free gift. You don't deserve God's
grace any more than I do. If we deserved God's
grace, we wouldn't need it. But if we embrace
the grace of God, it will break our hearts to
engage in the sins of the heart and the outward
behavior that sent Him to the cross for us. We
want to live like what we are—"If anyone be in
Christ he is a new creation; the old has gone,
all things have become new" (2 Cor. 5:17)
.
What you need is exactly what I need, every day
and every hour—an infusion of God's sovereign
grace. His grace alone empowers us to live holy
lives. I pray you will give yourself over to His
grace. I encourage you to read carefully Romans
3-8. God's Word has an authority that mine, Dr.
Wink's and Mel White's certainly do not. Don't
ask what others think—read and ask God what He
thinks. Because that alone is true.
There are many people—I know a number
personally—who have broken out of homosexual
relationships. I know this isn't what you want,
but it is what God wants. (I base this on the
teaching of Scripture, not speculation.) And if
I can be of help to you, please let me know. You
are likely familiar with them, but if you're
not, here are some addresses, phone numbers and
websites of groups reaching out to and
ministering to people in your exact situation.
[Exodus International/North America, PO Box
540119, Orlando, FL 32854;
www.exodusintl.org; Love in Action, PO Box
171444, Memphis, TN 38187, 901-767-6700,
www.loveinaction.org]
From your notes, I feel I know you, Shannon. And
I want you to know that I love you. You are
worth anything that I could do for you, and much
more. Jesus has done for you what I can't, and
wants to do for you more besides. Please ask Him
to show you what's true and right and what He
really wants for you—not what you want and what
others want for you, but what He wants. Listen
to His Word for the answers, and call upon Him
to show you the truth and empower you to live
it.
I am praying for you right now, and will
continue to in the coming days.
Investing in Eternity,
Randy Alcorn
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